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Bible Stories are
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B De Kretser
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Original Truth, Not Recycled Myth Anonymous
BIBLE STORIES ARE
RECYCLED MYTH
Brian De Kretser
(Investigator 73,
2000
July)
The story of
Horus, a
major Egyptian God,
is told in the "Book of Vivifying the Soul Forever" over 3,000 years
before
the birth of Christ.
The Jesus
story in the
Bible is a recycled
version of the Horus story. The comparisons given below prove
without
a doubt that the whole Bible is full of myths and stories recycled from
earlier times and made to fit the various characters of the Bible.
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EGYPTIAN MESSIAH – HORUS
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BIBLICAL MESSIAH – JESUS
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| 1 Horus is
the
Father seen in the son.. |
Jesus said he
was the way, the truth and the life. |
| 2 Horus
claims
to be the light of the world represented by the symbolic
eye, the sign of salvation. |
Jesus stated
that he is the light of the world. |
| 3 Horus said
that he was the way, the truth, the life. |
Jesus said he
was the way, the truth and the life. |
| 4 Horus was
the
plant, the shoot. |
Jesus says "I
am the true vine." |
| 5 Horus says
"It is I who traverse the heavens, I go round the Elysian
Fields. Eternity has been assigned to me without end, Lo! I am
heir
to endless time and my attribute is eternity. |
Jesus says "I
am come down from heaven, for this is the will of the
Father, that everyone who beholdeth the Son and believeth in him should
have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. |
| 6 Horus – I
open the Tuat that I may drive away the darkness. |
Jesus says I
am
come a light unto the world. |
| 7 Horus says
"I
am equipped with thy words O Ra [Father in Heaven]
and repeat them to those who are deprived of breath." These were
the words of the Father in heaven. |
Jesus says
"The
Father which sent me, he hath given me a command-ment,
what I should say and what I should speak. Whatsoever I speak therefore
even as the Father said unto me, so I speak. The word which ye hear is
not mine, but the Father's which sent me." |
| 8 Horus
baptized with water by Anup. |
Jesus
baptized
with water by John the Baptist. |
| 9 Horus –
Aan,
the name of the divine scribe. |
Jesus – John
the divine scribe. |
| 10 Horus born
in Annu, the place of bread. |
Jesus Born in
Bethlehem, the house of bread. |
| 11 Horus The
good shepherd with the crook on his shoulders. |
Jesus The
good
shepherd with a lamb on his shoulders. |
| 12 Horus
Seven
on board the boat with him. |
Jesus Seven
fishermen on board the boat with Jesus. |
| 13 Horus
Depicted as the Lamb |
Jesus
depicted
as the lamb. |
| 14 Horus as
the
Lion. |
Jesus as the
lion. |
| 15 Horus
identified with the Tat or cross. |
Jesus
identified with the cross. |
| 16 Horus of
12
years. |
Jesus of 12
years. |
| 17 Horus A
man
of 30 years. |
Jesus a man
of
30 years at his baptism. |
| 18 Horus the
KRST. |
Jesus the
Christ. |
| 19 Horus the
manifesting son of God. |
Jesus the
manifesting son of God. |
| 20 Horus The
trinity – Atum the Father, Horus the son, Ra the Holy Spirit. |
Jesus – God
the
Father, Jesus the son, and the Holy Spirit. |
| 21 Horus The
first Horus as a child of the virgin, the second as son
of Ra. |
Jesus as a
child of the virgin, Christ as the son of the Father in
heaven. |
| 22 Horus –
Horus the sender and Set the destroyer in the harvest field. |
Jesus – Jesus
the sender or the good seed, Satan the sender of tares. |
| 23 Horus
carried off by Set to the summit of Mount Hetep. |
Jesus carried
by Satan to an exceedingly high mountain. |
| 24 Horus and
Set contending on the Mount. |
Jesus and
Satan
contending on the Mount. |
| 25 Horus –The
star was the announcer of the child Horus. |
Jesus – The
Star in the East indicated the birth-place of Jesus. |
| 26 Horus –
the
avenger. |
Jesus who
brings the sword. |
| 27 Horus – as
Iu-em-hetep comes with peace. |
Jesus – the
bringer of peace. |
| 28 Horus –
the
afflicted one. |
Jesus – the
afflicted one. |
| 29 Horus – as
the type of life eternal. |
30 Jesus – as
the type of life eternal. |
| 30 Horus as
Iu-em-hetep the child teacher in the temple. |
Jesus as the
child teacher in the temple. |
| 31 Horus The
mummy bandage was woven without seam. |
Jesus The
vesture of the Christ was without seam. |
| 32 Horus As
Har-Khutti has twelve followers. |
32 Jesus has
twelve disciples. |
| 33 Horus The
revelation written down by divine scribe Aan (Tehuti). |
Jesus the
Revelation written down by John the Divine. |
| 34 Horus –
Aani
bears witness to the word of Ra. |
Jesus – John
bears witness to the word of God and testimony of Jesus
Christ. |
| 35
Horus
The secret mysteries revealed by That-Aan. |
Jesus
The
secret mysteries made known by John. |
| 36
Horus
The morning star. |
Jesus
The
morning star. |
| 37
Horus
Who gives the morning star to his followers. |
Jesus who
gives
the morning star to his followers. |
| 38
Horus
The name of Ra on the head of the deceased. |
Jesus
The
name of the father written on the forehead. |
| 39
Horus
The paradise of the Pole star–Am-Khemen. |
Jesus
The
Holy City lighted by one luminary that is neither the
sun nor the moon. |
| 40
Horus
Har-Seshu or servants of Horus. |
Jesus
The
servants of Jesus Christ. |
Reference:
Albert Churchward Horus: The
Way, The Truth, The Life. In:
The Book Your
Church
Doesn't Want You to
Read (1924) Jim C Leedom
THE
BIBLE:
ORIGINAL
TRUTH, NOT RECYCLED
MYTH
Anonymous
(Investigator 74,
2000
September
DEMISE
OF GODS PREDICTED
The Old
Testament states
that the gods of
the nations were valueless:
Their
idols are
like scarecrows
in a cucumber field,
and
they
cannot
speak,
They
have to be
carried, for they cannot
walk.
Be
not
afraid of
them, for they cannot do
evil,
neither
is it in
them to do good…
The
gods
who did
not make the heavens and
the earth
shall
perish from
the earth and from under
the heavens.
(Jeremiah
10:5, 11)
In particular
the
gods of
Memphis [the main
city of Egypt and hence representative of all Egypt] would be destroyed:
Thus
says the
Lord God:
I
will
destroy the
idols,
And
put
an end to
the images, in Memphis…
(Ezekiel
30:13)
But "God
Almighty" would be
known in every generation:
Thy
kingdom is
an everlasting kingdom,
And
thy
dominion
endures throughout all
generations.
(Psalm
145:13)
Given these
predictions it
would be inconsistent
and silly if the New Testament employed and rehashed myths based on
worthless
gods.
Yet Mr De
Kretser makes
that very claim.
He listed forty alleged similarities between the ancient Egyptian god
Horus
and the Gospel accounts about Jesus and alleges the similarities are
proof
of "recycled myth".
MYTH OF
HORUS, OSIRIS, ISIS
AND SET
"Horus"
was
the name of
two gods "Horus the
Elder" and "Horus the Child". Later they were regarded as one god.
Horus the
Elder was
represented either as
a falcon or as a human with a falcon's head. He was the sky god
of
Upper Egypt and brother of the gods Osiris, Isis and Set (the god of
evil).
Osiris and his wife Isis were the parents of Horus the Child. In the
myth
Set murdered Osiris, and Horus the Child later killed Set. (Cavendish
1980;
Graves 1968)
In the myth
the murder
of Osiris happened
this way: Set invited Osiris to a banquet and offered a gift of a
wooden
chest to anyone of the right size to fit exactly inside. The
chest
was designed to fit only Osiris. After Osiris was inside the
chest
was closed and set adrift and Osiris died.
Isis the wife
later
found the chest and posthumously
conceived a son –
Horus the Child –
by Osiris. Set then found the body of Osiris and cut him into 14 pieces
and scattered them throughout Egypt. Isis searched and found the pieces
and, using magic, fitted them back together and in that way resurrected
Osiris.
Horus the
Child was then
born and later took
revenge against Set for his father's (Osiris') murder.
The story
contains much
more detail. But
even the detail as given shows virtually nothing in common with the
gospel
accounts about God the Father, Jesus, the virgin birth and the
resurrection
THE TRICK
The trick
in
De
Kretser's approach of listing
similarities is the degree of similarity.
Here is a
list
of some
similarities between
Horus and Hitler. I've retained the same numbering as De Kretser.
| 1 Horus is
the
father seen in the son |
Hitler's
superior
qualities reflected in many sons of Germany |
| 2 Horus
claimed
to be the light of the world |
Hitler
claimed to
enlighten Germany politically |
| 5 Horus says
"It
is I who traverse the heavens… Eternity has been assigned
to me without end |
Hitler
traversed
the skies by aeroplane and offered to make Germany
forever powerful |
| 8 Horus
baptized
with water |
Hitler
baptized
as an infant in water |
| 9 Horus had a
divine scribe |
Hitler had
scribes |
| 10 Horus born
in
Annu, the place of bread |
Hitler born
in a
town with a bakery |
| 11 Horus the
good
shepherd |
Hitler at
first
like a good shepherd |
| 16 Horus of
12
years |
Hitler at 12
years in highschool |
| 17 Horus A
man of
30 years |
Hitler joined
Nazi Party at 30 |
| 18-19 Horus
the
KRST and manifesting son of God. |
Hitler seen
as a
saviour |
| 20 Horus the
Trinity |
Hitler,
Goebels
and Himler |
| 21 Horus
Child of
a virgin |
Hitler's
mother a
virgin prior to being mistress of H's father |
| 23-24 Horus
taken
by Set to the summit of Mount Hetep |
Hitler's
retreat
at Berchtesgarten |
| 26 Horus the
avenger |
Hitler
avenger of
Versaille Treaty |
| 27 Horus
comes
with peace |
Hitler
repeatedly
promised peace |
| 28 Horus the
afflicted one |
Hitler the
afflicted one |
| 32 Horus has
12
followers |
Hitler had 12 |
| 33 Horus
Revelation written down by divine scribe Aan |
Hitler's
secretary wrote down his Will and Testament in 1945 |
| 34 Horus –
Aani
bears witness |
Hitler–Goebels
his propaganda minister |
| 35 Horus –
The
secret mysteries revealed by That-Aan |
Hitler –
Albert
Speer wrote a book "Inside the Third Reich" |
| 36 Horus The
morning star |
Hitler
comforted
by astrology |
| 39 Horus The
paradise of the Pole star |
Hitler had a
model of how Berlin would be rebuilt |
| 40 Servants
of
Horus |
Servants of
Hitler |
Someone who is
expert on both Horus and Hitler
would probably find hundreds of vague correlations between the
two.
The declaration of Hitler's death in July 1944 and his reappearance is
loosely analogous to the alleged resurrection of Horus!
For number 32
in the
table I've said "Hitler
had 12" without specifying twelve of what. Panzer leader Guderian
(1974) writes of the "Hitler's close circle", "old comrades", "party
comrades", "Hitler's entourage", "the Party", "Gauleiters", "Hitler's
disciples",
etc. Surely, in one of these categories we could somewhere find a group
of twelve.
Judging by the
above
list the story of Hitler
initially appears to be a mythical rehash based loosely on Horus.
However, we all know that such an idea is silly.
Although, I
have not
found correlations between
Horus and Hitler for all 40 of De Kretser's points this may merely be a
matter of my lacking expert knowledge on Horus and Hitler.
Alternatively,
I could probably find 40 similarities but not the same 40 as De Kretser.
The trick
is
the level
of generality used.
Consider Point
23 in the
table. Probably
everyone's been on a hill or mountain at some time. If we ignore the
name
of the mountain, the date, the purpose for being there, and lots of
other
detail, we might think that the mention of a mountain is relevant and
suggests
that one story is derived from another. However, if we list the
specific
details about the "mountain(s)" in different stories and find that
nothing
beyond the word "mountain" matches up, we need to conclude that the
word "mountain" does not imply one story is derived from the other.
And we
could
argue
similarly with all the
other points.
To prove that
a Bible
story is a rehash from
some older story would require a statement by a Bible writer that he
used
or is citing the older story. Or failing this we need to demonstrate a
few entire sentences being reused word for word or almost word for word.
Theologians
and
historians of the 19th and
early 20th centuries debated the origins of various Bible stories –
whether
they were derived from vaguely similar ideas in the myths of nations
around
Israel. Such debates included the virgin birth, Samson, Jonah and
others. To my knowledge no connection was ever proven.
REFERENCES
Cavendish, R
(Editor)1980 Mythology An Illustrated
Encyclopedia, Orbis Publishing, Great Britain.
De Kretser, B
2000
Bible Stories are Recycled
Myth Investigator No.
73 July
Graves, R
(Introduction) 1968 New Larouse
Encyclopedia of Mythology, Crescent Books, New York
Guderian, H 1974
Panzer Leader, Futura
Publications,
London.
The Bible Revised
Standard Version 1952,
Wm. Collins Sons & Co., Great Britain.
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